I took a couple of things said by a few folk out of context, and realized that one of the reasons I like hand tools is that they will still be functional after teotwawki.

The teotwawaki issue is not just for extremes. Sometimes you are away from power. After a bad storm you may need to cover a broken window, with the power still out. Don’t get me wrong, I love my lithium One Plus Ryobi Screwdriver. It is not, however, what you want in an emergency box. It may be discharged by time, and will become discharged and useless after a while. In a rolling blackout, it may not be as useful. In a flood, most of my hand tools should be dried out, but they will still work wet. Not so my power tools. They will have to be carefully cleaned and dried, and still may not work.

If we put on the foil hats, (not advised, they are hot, don’t breath well, and give you the worst hat hair ever :roll: :shock: ) and explore the extreme end of teotwawki, there are even more issues at stake. Even if you have a boat with solar cells and a generator, an emf burst can keep you from using your power tools to repair your gun and fight off the zombie hoards created by the alien invaders.

Good teotwawki tools, I think are timeless. They have a good chance of becoming antiques or may already be antiques. Time itself will regularly cause the end of the world as we know it. You may have not noticed it, but you live in a different world than the one you were born in. My dad lived before TV and plastic, I lived before personal computers. Most of us have lived before cell phones. The world changes and many must have tools of a generation before, reach unpredicted obsolescence.

I suspect that part of the appeal of a old tool is it’s timeless dependability.

Bob